First, I want to point out that I do not want to motivate any
illegal activities with this thread - and I am not involved in any
illegal activities either.Preface
This thread was inspired by the discussion going on in the following
Since this discussion I really start thinking about the spirit and
the underground feeling which cracktros give. Furthermore, I realized
that cracktros in their common sense doesnt make sense anymore. I still
love them and like the new cracktros which appear without any doubt.
Nevertheless. To put it short : Cracktros was invented because someone
removed a copy protection which is an illegal deed. And now became
something like an own art movement ( with different variations like
64kb, Intros, Megademos and so on ... ).
Now I questioned myself - are there similar movements (even illegal ones)
out of which something positive and creative can evolve ?
Then the Website Defacement Groups
came to my mind.Website Defacement
If you never heard about Defacement, have a look what wikipedia writes :
A website defacement is when a Defacer breaks into a web server and ( See : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Website_defacement)
alters the hosted website or creates one of his own.
A message is often left on the webpage stating his or her pseudonym and
the output from "uname -a" and the "id" command along with "shout outs"
to his or her friends. Sometimes the Defacer makes fun of the system
administrator for failing to maintain server security. Most times the
defacement is harmless, however, it can sometimes be used as a distraction
to cover up more sinister actions such as uploading malware.
I know that amongst Hacker Website defacement is a controversial topic.
And causing vandalism is something I really refuse! On the other hand if
you do not destroy something and just leave a message behind there is
actually a good part in showing system vulnerabilites for free ...
But again - I guess everyone has another view on this topic...
So let's move on ....Parallels to Cracking Scene
After I start thinking about it - I realized some parallels to the cracking
- The act of website defacement is illegal
- like the removal of a
- Ppl form into hacker groups using handles/groupnames
- People show their groupname on the defaced page to get credit and getting
a reputation in the defacement scene ( similar to the cracker groups... )
- They also put greetings to other groups in the scene on the defaced page
- Defacing a website needs technical skills. Of course - there are also
script kiddies who defaces small private pages - but with those defacements
they do not get a good reputation.
If you want to see how this looks like you can have a look at the following
In most cases a defacement message is just some simple html text. If you
remember the old quartex cracks also contains just some starting text.How can this evolve into some legal art movement
Actually the art what I have in mind already exists but with no illeagal
background. But I wonder when those defacement groups start putting some
multimedia online message on defaced websites showing their group logo,
greetings and stuff ...
So, the multimedia message could be something like the remakes of cracktros
available on http://www.flashtro.com/
This would imply that more and more ppl start to write flashtros with better
and better fx. A good flashtro impresses more ppl and you may get a better re-
And then the art of flashtros become more popular and we have a nice new
legal art movement of flashtros ...Open Discussion
Ok. This is just what I had in mind thinking about other digital underground
movements which might combine illegal acitivities with creative computer art.
Of course it is not the same as the cracktro scene - but I really would like
to hear what you think about this topic.
Do you think in 10 years there is a new category next to 64kb, Demos and so
on called Defacetros