Lets go... New Noob at DBF!

[AmigaFreak]

Hi there!

I'm new here (Thank you, Nick!) and I'm VERY interested to learn coding cracktros.
I have some experience in PHP/SQL and JAVA, but no experience in demo-programming in C/C+.
I want to change this situation, because I remember all the cool intros on C64 and Amiga in
the good old days. NOW I want to learn cracktro-coding on PC for fun, but I need your help.
So, it would be nice if you can help me to walk my first step and create my first production! 

Two of my all-time cracktros are the following cool productions:
Prestige (Top Gear 2): http://retro-remakes.net/viewproduction.php?prod=cee0ae3f75d62eeb89b92a1af734d24766fd48bd
Ministry/Melon (No Second Prize): http://retro-remakes.net/viewproduction.php?prod=17bf752398fa95a15007272b6a2c38df505cac37

...but I think this stuff are to heavy for my first steps 

Maybe the following cracktros are suitable for my first steps and intro-experiences?
Fairlight (Cannon Fooder): http://retro-remakes.net/viewproduction.php?prod=61eaafe99a83815469ca5afb91ba78fb3679db42
Skid Row (Jaguar XJ220): http://retro-remakes.net/viewproduction.php?prod=c3e81da95e8d4235a6695c13534d99de6373347c

Best regards
AmigaFreak 

[Hotshot]

 

Those two Beginner Demo of what you show is good step then I am sure someone will give you good Step by Step on How to make Demo


From what i know on easy step on making demo would like this

1) Picture with Text and Music

2) Picture with Text Scrolling and music

3) Starfield with Text Scrolling and Music

4) Starfield direction with text scrolling and music

5)  Starfield with Rasterbars and text scrolling music

6)  Plasma

take it from there but again I am not sure if that easy step to make demo

 I am sure someone can guide you

[AmigaFreak]

Hi Hotshot,

thank you for your warm welcome! 

Ok, I'm ready - now I need to know...

1. Which programs/tools did I need?
2. How and which configurations need the tools?
3. How can I test the configuration? (Did it work correct?)*
4. How to start the first own intro/demo?

*) Maybe there are free source codes (maybe for the two beginner demos) available to test the configuration and maybe to test changes on the original source for first experiences.

[jace_stknights]

Hi,
For myself, I've started to code some remakes since one year. And firstly I wanted to use C/C++.

After some good learning here I can tell you now I'm using Purebasic(free for up to 800 lines of code). It is simple, fast enought for this kind of production. You could find a simple example from Padman here:
  http://www.dbfinteractive.com/forum/index.php?topic=5553.0
Or:
http://www.dbfinteractive.com/forum/index.php?topic=5229.0
And a simple text try: http://www.dbfinteractive.com/forum/index.php?topic=5303.0

Otherwise, there are some coding tutos in C and opengl here: http://www.dbfinteractive.com/forum/index.php?board=42.0
If you got some specific questions...

[AmigaFreak]

Hi jace_stknights!

After some good learning here I can tell you now I'm using Purebasic(free for up to 800 lines of code). It is simple, fast enought for this kind of production. You could find a simple example from Padman here:
  http://www.dbfinteractive.com/forum/index.php?topic=5553.0
Or:
http://www.dbfinteractive.com/forum/index.php?topic=5229.0
And a simple text try: http://www.dbfinteractive.com/forum/index.php?topic=5303.0

I have download PureBasic 4.61 right now.

Now I have try the "Paradox Fucktro remake" but I get some Error-Messages,
PureBasic can't find some files like: scroll.pbi, libminifmod170.pbi and some pictures (one:  IncludeBinary "prd1.bmp" etc.)

The third "simple text" have problems (Syntax Error) in line 20+21 and 120. In Line 138 purebasic need a font-file.

Where can I get the needed files from?

[Shockwave]

Welcome to DBF

[padman]

Hello and welcome to the forum.

Where can I get the needed files from?

All the files for my remakes are available in the ZIP. (see bottom of first post in the specific threads.) Just extract them to a folder of your choice.

[Raizor]

Welcome AmigaFreak

I used to love that Prestige intro. I can't remember the name of the effect, it was "chaos zoomer" or something like that.

As you have experience in Java, you should find C/C++ somewhat familiar in terms of language syntax, though pointers will probably take a little while to get you head around. If you just want to get something out the door and aren't too concerned with filesize, then Purebasic, Freebasic or even C# might be a good starting point. Whichever language you choose, I'm sure you'll get plenty of support on the forum. Good luck, and I look forward to seeing your first intro!

[Hotshot]

1. Which programs/tools did I need?

Purebasic or BlitzMax or FreeBasic(free)

2. How and which configurations need the tools?
3. How can I test the configuration? (Did it work correct?)*

it is Trail and error on how you learn from it and it does take time but good things of today is you can ask people on the forum for help where back in 80`s and early 90`s   I didnt have internet as I had to workout myself on paper then code on the Screen then with AMOS PRO   

4. How to start the first own intro/demo?

Learn from DBF Tutorials and take step by step

At the end of day..

what you are comfortable with the code and understanding them

[jace_stknights]

Where can I get the needed files from?

All the files for my remakes are available in the ZIP. (see bottom of first post in the specific threads.) Just extract them to a folder of your choice.

Yep all examples here come with .zip files with all full sources

Ps: big thanx to Padman another time ( I should put also one or all of my remake sources )

[energy]

@AmigaFreak

Welcome here in the forum

I have download PureBasic 4.61 right now.

Now I have try the "Paradox Fucktro remake" but I get some Error-Messages,
PureBasic can't find some files like: scroll.pbi, libminifmod170.pbi and some pictures (one:  IncludeBinary "prd1.bmp" etc.)

The third "simple text" have problems (Syntax Error) in line 20+21 and 120. In Line 138 purebasic need a font-file.

Where can I get the needed files from?

I downloaded PB4.61 and there's NO problem to compile the  "Paradox Fucktro remake".
All needed stuff is included.
Perhaps yu downloaded a DemoVersion with limitations.
If so, try to get a Fullversion.

[AmigaFreak]

@ Shockwave: Thank you! 

@ padman: Oh yes, thank you for this information! 

@ Raizor: Ok, the best way is to check PureBasic and C/C++. At first I try PureBasic now. Which tool do you tool would you advice for c/c++?

@ Hotshot: Ok, I try this. Are here in the board different source codes for PureBasic, FreeBasic and BlitzMax? I have installed PureBasic. Are FreeBasic or BlitzMax better/easier?

@ @ Energy: Du hast Post (PM)

[Raizor]

@ Raizor: Ok, the best way is to check PureBasic and C/C++. At first I try PureBasic now. Which tool do you tool would you advice for c/c++?

Give Visual C++ Express a go. It's free.

[energy]

i agree with raizor.
VS-E is a try worse-lately if yu want to go over to sizecoding.

[AmigaFreak]

Ok, i take my first steps in purebasic and its funny :-)

Is there a good german tutorial (maybe with nice examples)?

BTW: Are there more cracktro sources codes around here for training?
I only find the three source codes of padman.

[Hotshot]

Google Search is your friends and I have done the search for ya

http://www.google.co.uk/webhp?rlz=1C1CHJW_enGB481GB481&sourceid=chrome-instant&ie=UTF-8&ion=1#hl=en&rlz=1C1CHJW_enGB481GB481&sclient=psy-ab&q=purebasic%20tutorial&oq=&aq=&aqi=&aql=&gs_l=&pbx=1&fp=205fca0967bb225c&ion=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.,cf.osb&biw=1280&bih=622

http://bluez.home.xs4all.nl/purebasic/

Code Achive that you could learn from

http://www.purearea.net/pb/english/index.htm


and also check this one English version or the german version 

http://www.purearea.net/

Hope that help 

[egons]

Code Archive is bundle of mess kinda non-working PB-examples

[egons]

I have download PureBasic 4.61 right now.

The third "simple text" have problems (Syntax Error) in line 20+21 and 120. In Line 138 purebasic need a font-file.

Where can I get the needed files from?

is purebasic demo or not? if yes, one has some limitations - some api calls, some (approx.~400) lines of code