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Title: Just didn't get my Associates Degree.
Post by: Pixel_Outlaw on May 07, 2008
Well I've pounded out two hard years of college tonight. I now have an associates in art and science.  :updance: :cheers:

My question dear fellows is what to take now regarding computer sciences. My bachelors degree will be in computer sciences.

I would like to be a successful programmer not counting programming courses (which will be mandatory and obvious) what kinds of mathematics should I be looking into?
Title: Re: Just got my Associates Degree!
Post by: hellfire on May 07, 2008
QuoteI now have an associates in art and science.
I'm not quite sure what that actually is, but congratulations nevertheless :)

QuoteI would like to be a successful programmer
"Computer science"  and "programming" aren't as much related as most people think.
So don't expect to learn programming at university, usually people don't care about actual implementations - being able to write some pseudo-code is enough most of the time.
At the end all algorithms have been implemented already anyways, so they usually need to be "combined".
You are not studying mathematics to become good in mental arithmetic either ;)

Quotewhat kinds of mathematics should I be looking into?
Basically all :)
I did mathematics as a subsidiary subject which is probably the most deadpan field available. If you're lucky there are special math-courses for computer-science, dealing with imaginatable things in three dimensions - otherwise you'll be proving why cofinite subsets of x form boolean rings and other amazing pointlessness ;)

edit: that's the case in germany.
Title: Re: Just got my Associates Degree!
Post by: combatking0 on May 07, 2008
If you are given the opportunity to take a minor with your bachelors degree, I reccomend taking up programming, maths or engineering as the minor subject.

Programming will give you the main bearing you're looking for, but you'll probably have to pick a language, such as the latest version of C or Java.

Maths will teach you how to do insanely powerful mathematical functions, and may involve some programming, but might not be very hands on.

Engineering will show you how to apply the maths, but again you'll have to choose a subject, such as mechanical, electrical, etc... You'll probably get to do some computer aided simulations and programming.

That was the case when I did my degree anyway.
Title: Re: Just got my Associates Degree!
Post by: Jim on May 07, 2008
I did Maths for Computer Scientists (complex numbers, function analysis, induction, etc), Discrete Maths (algorithmic maths, graphs, logic, matrices) and Analysis (numerical analysis, induction).  The first two I use every single day in my job.

Jim
Title: Re: Just got my Associates Degree!
Post by: rain_storm on May 07, 2008
Congratulations PO
Title: Re: Just got my Associates Degree!
Post by: benny! on May 07, 2008
Congratz, PO.

With the rest, I agree with Hellfire!
Title: Re: Just got my Associates Degree!
Post by: zawran on May 07, 2008
Congratulations on getting your Associates Degree. Unfortunately I do not really have the knowledge to advise you on your further education, but whereever it takes you, I wish you continued good luck with it.
Title: Re: Just got my Associates Degree!
Post by: Shockwave on May 07, 2008
 :cheers: Congratulations on your degree, since I am a van driver it would be folly of me to advise you what mathematics to study in the future.. You have had advice off some good people though that should help you.
Title: Re: Just got my Associates Degree!
Post by: Clyde on May 07, 2008
Congratulations Pixel Outlaw :)
Title: Re: Just got my Associates Degree!
Post by: Pixel_Outlaw on May 08, 2008
Thanks guys. I'm really happy and have put much work into this.

As it stands to get this computer science degree there are two programming courses beginning programming and advanced programming. They both are C++ which is fine I guess.

My last math teacher suggested I go into discrete mathematics since I kept throwing problems her way that were really out of her understanding. They don't teach the math I normally need for programming in most math courses.
Title: Re: Just got my Associates Degree!
Post by: hellfire on May 08, 2008
QuoteMy last math teacher suggested I go into discrete mathematics
Well, most of that is covered by computer-science anyways, like
logic, graph theory, algorithmics, information theory, computability and complexity.

QuoteThey don't teach the math I normally need for programming
So what are you programming then?
In my job I usually do well with some linear algebra (for computer graphics), analysis (for signal processing) and numerical methods (for everything else)...
Title: Re: Just got my Associates Degree!
Post by: Voltage on May 08, 2008
Congrats PO, and best of luck with your next educational endeavour.
Title: Re: Just got my Associates Degree!
Post by: Hotshot on May 09, 2008
Welldone and Good for next level :)

Title: Re: Just got my Associates Degree!
Post by: Pixel_Outlaw on May 10, 2008
OK now for some Damage Control

I thought I was going to graduate but it turns out that my degree is a 3 year plan and I had been lied to by my adviser. The whole day was ruined yesterday when I found out that I had not completed all of the requirements. One more frickin year. My mom was really upset and both of my parents had taken the day off also I had bought the stupid graduation outfit.


So one more year of living with mommy and daddy, living in much the same way I did when I was 6 years old.
Title: Re: Just didn't get my Associates Degree.
Post by: Jim on May 11, 2008
That's really not fair.  How could you be misled that badly :(

Jim
Title: Re: Just didn't get my Associates Degree.
Post by: Shockwave on May 11, 2008
Sorry to hear that P_O :( A year will soon go by though, try not to feel to upset and carry on working hard.
Title: Re: Just didn't get my Associates Degree.
Post by: Jim on May 11, 2008
I know this is a massive blow, but don't let it get you down too badly.  Some of my friends at university dropped out and I couldn't understand why - just 1 or 2 years would have got them a degree and that's not really that long in terms of how long it will last when you go to get a job.  There's nothing worse for an employer to see than you dropped out.  Stick with it, use the extra time to do the extra maths and programming courses you want to do...perhaps see if you can transfer to a course with a better qualification at the end.

Jim
Title: Re: Just didn't get my Associates Degree.
Post by: rain_storm on May 12, 2008
Really bad news but at least you get to spend some more time in college which aint such a bad thing, At least its only a year.
Title: Re: Just didn't get my Associates Degree.
Post by: nkk_kan on May 14, 2008
go kill your adviser first :P

don't worry...one year will go away soon..
and you'll be missing these college years when you grow old..