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Title: [REMAKES] Vision Factory Spaceship
Post by: Jim on October 26, 2008
Here's my remake entry.  It's not pixel perfect, but I will include source so it can be fixed up.
Do try the joystick (or arrows and spacebar)!
I'm off to Venlo!

Jim

Title: Re: [REMAKES] Vision Factory Spaceship
Post by: ninogenio on October 26, 2008
i get an error from vista jim saying something like.

this application has failed to start because its side-by-side configuration is incorrect.please see the application event log for more detail.
Title: Re: [REMAKES] Vision Factory Spaceship
Post by: Jim on October 26, 2008
Can you try installing the Visual C runtimes.  I don't think I'm using any, but it might help

VS2008 (try these first)
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=9B2DA534-3E03-4391-8A4D-074B9F2BC1BF&displaylang=en (http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=9B2DA534-3E03-4391-8A4D-074B9F2BC1BF&displaylang=en)

VS2005
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=32bc1bee-a3f9-4c13-9c99-220b62a191ee&DisplayLang=en (http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=32bc1bee-a3f9-4c13-9c99-220b62a191ee&DisplayLang=en)

Jim

Title: Re: [REMAKES] Vision Factory Spaceship
Post by: Jim on October 26, 2008
I've changed the original zip to not reference any C runtime at all.  That's taken me 5 mins over the time limit though  :-\

Jim

Title: Re: [REMAKES] Vision Factory Spaceship
Post by: ninogenio on October 26, 2008
very very cool! having something todo while reading the scroller is fun :)

edit - i think you should be ok time wise surely?!
Title: Re: [REMAKES] Vision Factory Spaceship
Post by: Praecor on October 26, 2008
 :clap: :clap: Amazing :) Adding that input is so cool !! All trees & bushes going by fast so nicely. Awesome feeling to wave around and listen to that music.

It's also good to see you added your own credit in the end. you really deserve it, after hard coding and getting that true amiga-day feeling to it!!

Btw. I find those source-codes useful, and especially cool they are in plain c. thanks releasing.  :cheers:
Title: Re: [REMAKES] Vision Factory Spaceship
Post by: Praecor on October 26, 2008
Works great on Vista!!!
Title: Re: [REMAKES] Vision Factory Spaceship
Post by: Shockwave on October 26, 2008
It won't run here sadly Jim. :*(

Sorry.
Application configuration is incorrect.
Title: Re: [REMAKES] Vision Factory Spaceship
Post by: Shockwave on October 26, 2008
From the rules:

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There will be a grace period of one day at the end of the competition to fix any compatibility problems of remakes submitted before the deadline.

Please if you can, could you change it so that it doesn't need any runtimes? Thanks.
Title: Re: [REMAKES] Vision Factory Spaceship
Post by: Jim on October 26, 2008
Should be that already.  I don't use any runtimes, after nino's post.

Jim

Title: Re: [REMAKES] Vision Factory Spaceship
Post by: Shockwave on October 26, 2008
Mmmm.

Strange. Maybe it's this machine, there is something corrupted on this computer. I will test it on another computer when I go to visit my parents later.

Stormbringer, does it run with you mate?
Title: Re: [REMAKES] Vision Factory Spaceship
Post by: Xalthorn on October 26, 2008
It runs for me when I unload the virus scanner.

That's really cute, and fun to play with whilst reading (or ignoring) the scroller.  I always loved those blocky 3D style letters.

One thing that confuses me though, is when you turn the ship left, the bushes also go left which confuses me because I'd expect them to go right (away from the ship) and the same for when you turn right.

I haven't seen the original though, so it might also do the same thing.
Title: Re: [REMAKES] Vision Factory Spaceship
Post by: stormbringer on October 26, 2008
runs fine here (XP) except it's a bit shaky (even in full screen mode that does not seem to be a proper full screen mode.. maybe my gfx card does not support the requested one)

ship controls seem to be inverted.. I'll check it later at work with a joystick. It would be nice to see that one fixed
Title: Re: [REMAKES] Vision Factory Spaceship
Post by: Jim on October 26, 2008
Ship controls inverted is definitely a bug!

Full screen has to be 800x600 since the original is way overscanned, vertically, from 320x256, which I double up.

Shakiness comes from trying to get 50Hz (original frame rate) when screen refreshes at 60Hz.  UAE has the same problem.  There's no way to make a perfect copy of a 50Hz demo at 60Hz...

Sorry about the clunkiness.  :-[

Jim
Title: Re: [REMAKES] Vision Factory Spaceship
Post by: stormbringer on October 26, 2008
true Jim, but why not make it work @ 60Hz? I also have this challenge for my remakes but I simply make the intro work at 60Hz like an NTSC Amiga. in this case, at least for the scroll text. The ship motion can stay at 50Hz since there will not be any visible difference...
Title: Re: [REMAKES] Vision Factory Spaceship
Post by: Jim on October 26, 2008
Reason it can't run at 60 is that scroller goes 6 pixels per 50Hz frame.  If I run it at 60Hz then the scroll goes too fast and finishes before the music (in fact, adding my own credit fux0rs that too).  I think it's brilliant of the original demo that it's so ad-hoc "bye the way...", but the scroller finishes right when the music does.  I should have left it alone.
So, there's no way to make a 50hz scroller scroll at the right speed on a 60Hz screen.  Not something we should argue about, just something we have to live with.
Is this not a problem with all the demos you convert?  All the timing is frame-based, except the music.
Jim

Title: Re: [REMAKES] Vision Factory Spaceship
Post by: benny! on October 26, 2008
Runs smooth. Great remake, Jim. Congratz!
Title: Re: [REMAKES] Vision Factory Spaceship
Post by: Shockwave on October 26, 2008
Yay! I got it to run :D

It's really nice Jim.

The only things that seemed amiss for me was the bordered window in windowed mode and the taskbar was visible in fullscreen, ship won't move up and down like the original for me too.

Emulating 50hz has been done really well afaic.  :)
Title: Re: [REMAKES] Vision Factory Spaceship
Post by: Jim on October 26, 2008
omfg!  I didn't realise it went up and down!!!!!11oneshit.   Ha ha ha, I've loved this demo for 20 years and now I find out there's even more to it!  :D

Jim

Title: Re: [REMAKES] Vision Factory Spaceship
Post by: Rbz on October 26, 2008
Does not work here too, incorrect configuration thing  :-\

Recompiled your source code on MSVC 2005 and now it works fine, attached one version here.

And yes, ship controls are wrong :)
Title: Re: [REMAKES] Vision Factory Spaceship
Post by: gooner on October 26, 2008
Cool stuff well done Jim :clap:
Title: Re: [REMAKES] Vision Factory Spaceship
Post by: Shockwave on October 26, 2008
It's a hell of a nice remake, but to summarise what needs fixing to get it to 100%;

Left mouse exit
Up/Down movement
Reverse direction

Purely from an asthetic point of view, remove the ugly windows border from the windowed version, Remove toolbar from fullscreen mode..

I'm totally gutted because I know that this has not been an easy one to do.
Title: Re: [REMAKES] Vision Factory Spaceship
Post by: Xalthorn on October 26, 2008
I'm not sure if it's my odd laptop, but I get odd half bushes on the right hand side of the screen, like they're overflowing from the left hand edge.  Or rather clipped and then thrown too far left.
Title: Re: [REMAKES] Vision Factory Spaceship
Post by: Jim on October 26, 2008
Another bug, I'm afraid!
I will try to fix up everything I can before this gets uploaded to RR.  This version will have to do for the comp though ;) :D

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bordered window in windowed mode
You mean the standard Windows window borders?

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and the taskbar was visible in fullscreen
Really? :( I only clear the background once, so I guess Windows might redraw the taskbar...

Jim

Title: Re: [REMAKES] Vision Factory Spaceship
Post by: Pixel_Outlaw on October 27, 2008
This is a very cool little demo. Nicely done.
Title: Re: [REMAKES] Vision Factory Spaceship
Post by: Clyde on October 27, 2008
Neat stuff Jim dude. I had to run the archive that Rbz posted up, as I was getting the same reports as Nino originally had about the side by side config.