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Title: Forum Upgrade
Post by: Shockwave on April 08, 2011
For your information..

I am going to attempt to upgrade the forum software this weekend.
There will certainly be some problems, the risks are;

1: The front page will stop working and have to be taken offline.
2: That it will corrupt the database.
3: It will corrupt session cookies and may prevent you from logging in until you clear your cookies.
4: That there will be a shitload of broken links all over the place.

I've enquired with our hosts about whether they will be able to restore the site if it all goes wrong and they said yes.

Before the upgrade I will be taking a full backup of all the databases and all the files.

The forum may be offline for a few hours tomorrow if it goes quite bad.
If it goes terribly I will ask Xilo to restore it back to how it is now at this point in time.

Once we are updated to RC5, we can start re-building the site :)

In the meantime thatnks everyone for your posts and new topics!  It's nice to see life in this place again.

Title: Re: Forum Upgrade
Post by: ninogenio on April 08, 2011
thanks for your hardwork sw!

i cant wait too try and help rebuild this place, i agree its been excellent to see new stuff going on.especially the mobile development! keep it coming guys.
Title: Re: Forum Upgrade
Post by: padman on April 08, 2011
Good luck with the update! *crossing fingers*
Title: Re: Forum Upgrade
Post by: Shockwave on April 08, 2011
Thanks guys.

I am scared shitless to be honest but I've had this feeling every time I've had to do this and I've done it a few times now so I should know how to fix it if it goes wrong!
Title: Re: Forum Upgrade
Post by: rain_storm on April 08, 2011
Good luck,

I'm looking forward to seeing what changes. Hopefully we'll get another 10 years out of it.
Title: Re: Forum Upgrade
Post by: benny! on April 08, 2011
Good luck, Shocky. I'll keep my finger crossed.
And thanks for your hardwork, make!
Title: Re: Forum Upgrade
Post by: Shockwave on April 08, 2011
Quote from: rain_storm on April 08, 2011
I'm looking forward to seeing what changes.

Well, the forum will stay mostly the same I think, there will be a new theme though and I am going to try and put the shout box on this page too. The front page will be what changes the most.  As for new features, there will definitely be a spell check option for posts but I doubt that I will be changing much else to be honest.
Title: Re: Forum Upgrade
Post by: Shockwave on April 08, 2011
Just downloading the 12,000 + files to back up the site!

Database is huge too... 45mb!

That's going to be a right nightmare to restore if I fuck this up..

TBH I think I am going to go for the upgrade was soon as the backup is downloaded.


Title: Re: Forum Upgrade
Post by: Shockwave on April 08, 2011
Good News!

We are now upgraded to RC5.

Some things have been broken during the upgrade, the ones I know about;

Youtube icon has gone from the post form, until it's fixed you can type;

[ youtube ] video id [ / youtube ] < without the spaces to post your video.

The arcade is gone (maybe I'll re-install it)
There is a bug in the moderators drop down menu
SSI.PHP is broken which is fucking up the front page
Blackrain theme fucked up

Apart from that it went well, which is good.. All the things above are minor things.
I've installed this theme for now because it looks cool and fixes a lot of other shit that blew up when I upgraded.

Thoughts on this theme?

Whatever theme we use I am going to use it as a basis for the new front end.

Cheers!

Oh, btw you can spell check your posts as well now... I have to see what else we can do :)

Title: Re: Forum Upgrade
Post by: benny! on April 08, 2011
Great job, mate. Thanks a lot.

I somehow like the theme a lot. It feels lighter than the old one and a bit cleaner. Well it is hard to explain.  The layout of the header is nice (Top header incl. search, left header logo, right side has avatar info plus important links ...)

Loved the old one, too, though.

Hope fixing the listed bugs will not be hard - if I can help, just give a note.

Just realized, that our logo is too big for the theme (Refer to index.css, #logo, height-attribute, top-attribute).

Apart from that everything looks pretty good  :||
Title: Re: Forum Upgrade
Post by: Hotshot on April 08, 2011
I agree the theme of itself look so cool :)
It`s good to hear that the new forum itself is going Good :)

Keep the good work up :) 8) :clap:

Title: Re: Forum Upgrade
Post by: Shockwave on April 08, 2011
I've started to fix the bugs, the logo is fixed, code boxes were also broken, they are fixed, SSI.PHP is repaired now so the front page is fixed.

Hooray!

I like this theme too, it will suit the ideas that have been discussed for the new front page.

I hope everyone else likes it :)
Title: Re: Forum Upgrade
Post by: benny! on April 08, 2011
Damn, that was pretty fast.

Yeah - theme rocks. Like it more and more ... The color-set is really eye-friendly I have to say.
After a hard work-week it still feels comfortable to look at the screen.
Title: Re: Forum Upgrade
Post by: Shockwave on April 08, 2011
Thanks mate..

I spent a lot of time planning this and did a few test upgrades on my home system to minimise the risk but it was still scary!
Title: Re: Forum Upgrade
Post by: TinDragon on April 08, 2011
Well there's always going to be something that does fit right with one of these upgrades but if its the odd graphic out of place thats not to bad. Losing the content would have been the worse nightmare, yeah you could restore the backup but it means more work to try and upgrade again at another time. Now your upgraded its just fixing other things
Title: Re: Forum Upgrade
Post by: Moroboshisan on April 08, 2011
WOW... Blazing F-A-S-T !!! Really!... you guys really ROCK!!!... nice theme, I think I need to get used to it, but I like it! actually evertything's screwed up, but it seems to work anyway! ;)
Title: Re: Forum Upgrade
Post by: Shockwave on April 08, 2011
Quote from: Moroboshisan on April 08, 2011
actually evertything's screwed up, but it seems to work anyway! ;)

I hope it's not too screwed up!
Please show me and I'll fix it!

Jon, yeah, it'll just be little tweaks here and there mate.
Do you like the new look?
Title: Re: Forum Upgrade
Post by: combatking0 on April 08, 2011
I saw the following error message on the front page:

Quote
Notice: Undefined index: mod_cache in /home/dbfinter/public_html/forum/Sources/Load.php on line 1549[/url]

Other than that, everything looks great ;D
Title: Re: Forum Upgrade
Post by: Shockwave on April 08, 2011
WHen you say "you saw", is it still there?
Title: Re: Forum Upgrade
Post by: combatking0 on April 08, 2011
Yes, it's on this page every time I visit it:

http://www.dbfinteractive.com/
Title: Re: Forum Upgrade
Post by: Raizor on April 08, 2011
Yea, I see the same as combatking0 on the home page: Notice: Undefined index: mod_cache in /home/dbfinter/public_html/forum/Sources/Load.php on line 1549

I like the new look, it seems a lot cleaner and easier to ready.  Good stuff Shockwave :)
Title: Re: Forum Upgrade
Post by: Moroboshisan on April 08, 2011
now everything's seems cleaned up... no more errors or white-background-pages... =)
Title: Re: Forum Upgrade
Post by: Shockwave on April 08, 2011
If that's in the shoutbox it's cool..
I think that Moroboshisan may have posted it by accident during the upgrade ;)
Title: Re: Forum Upgrade
Post by: Moroboshisan on April 08, 2011
you're right! ;) everything's was totally messed-up... I took the shoutbox box as the fast-post box.. :-/   slap me in the face! ;)
Title: Re: Forum Upgrade
Post by: Shockwave on April 08, 2011
Hehe, no problem mate.

:D

Just wait till we get the new front end on here with the new showcase, it will be as cool as fuck!
Title: Re: Forum Upgrade
Post by: Moroboshisan on April 08, 2011
Quote from: Shockwave on April 08, 2011
[...] it will be as cool as fuck!

...nothing can be cool as fuck! ;)... maybe!  ^_^
Title: Re: Forum Upgrade
Post by: Raizor on April 08, 2011
Quote from: Moroboshisan on April 08, 2011
...nothing can be cool as fuck! ;)... maybe!  ^_^

Hahaha :)
Title: Re: Forum Upgrade
Post by: padman on April 08, 2011
Woah, a couple of extra hours at work and when I come back all is new already! :o Looking good! Just seems to be a little slower on my crappy WinCE netbook. Need to get my gf off the desktop PC (she's blocking it playing The Sims Medival  ::)) to really get a feel of it... Anyway, good that everything went well without major problems  :clap:
Title: Re: Forum Upgrade
Post by: Moroboshisan on April 08, 2011
... W-O-W ... forum upgrade in record time! ;)... besides some "minor" fixes here here and there everything's working flawloessly!
Title: Re: Forum Upgrade
Post by: Moroboshisan on April 08, 2011
Quote from: padman on April 08, 2011
[...] Just seems to be a little slower on my crappy WinCE netbook [...]

slower? really?... page loading seems twice as fast as the previous version!
Title: Re: Forum Upgrade
Post by: rdc on April 08, 2011
I have to chime in and say that I too like the theme a lot. Two thumbs up.
Title: Re: Forum Upgrade
Post by: Shockwave on April 08, 2011
Tomorrow I plan to replace the banner sigs with smaller trophy sigs (the existing ones will be used in the showcase in the new front page).

These sigs were cool at first but now they are just cluttering up the place and making it look untidy.


Btw, the skin is much less image-heavy than blackrain but there's a lot more javascript.

Title: Re: Forum Upgrade
Post by: TinDragon on April 08, 2011
new looks pretty clean and easy on the eye, no problems there tbh.

The top banner is abit different, not central and the bit were it says "hey, Tindragon" and shows posts and stuff is for somereason on far right now, rather than left side but i am sure its tweakable :)
Title: Re: Forum Upgrade
Post by: combatking0 on April 08, 2011
The error message disappears when I log-out, and is only there while I'm logged in.
Title: Re: Forum Upgrade
Post by: Shockwave on April 08, 2011
Can you take a screen shot please?
Title: Re: Forum Upgrade
Post by: Moroboshisan on April 08, 2011
Quote from: combatking0 on April 08, 2011
The error message disappears when I log-out, and is only there while I'm logged in.

have you tried to clean browser caches?!?
Title: Re: Forum Upgrade
Post by: Shockwave on April 08, 2011
Quote from: TinDragon on April 08, 2011
The top banner is abit different, not central and the bit were it says "hey, Tindragon" and shows posts and stuff is for somereason on far right now, rather than left side but i am sure its tweakable :)

Yes, that would be easy to swap, it's just altering 1 line of php, I had to change it to insert the link to the front page into the logo so I know where to look.

It's caught me a few times too because I am used to clicking the logo in the centre..  There is a new layout planned for the front page though and this one fits it..
Title: Re: Forum Upgrade
Post by: ninogenio on April 08, 2011
wow what a top job shockwave!!!

youve totally gave new life to this place, new theme looks really cool too btw.
Title: Re: Forum Upgrade
Post by: Moroboshisan on April 08, 2011
still "Notice: Undefined index: mod_cache in /home/dbfinter/public_html/forum/Sources/Load.php on line 1549" when logged in... disappears logging out
Title: Re: Forum Upgrade
Post by: Shockwave on April 08, 2011
Can you get a screen shot please?
Title: Re: Forum Upgrade
Post by: Moroboshisan on April 08, 2011
here they are
Title: Re: Forum Upgrade
Post by: Shockwave on April 08, 2011
That's a nasty one!

I think I've traced it though, do you want to check to see if it's fixed?
Title: Re: Forum Upgrade
Post by: Moroboshisan on April 08, 2011
...gone! :-)
Title: Re: Forum Upgrade
Post by: Shockwave on April 08, 2011
Good!

It only affected moderators by the look of it.

The problem wasn't in load.php, the mod_cache was getting ass fucked because SMF changed the order of fields in the cache for RC5, my custom front page was looking for the permissions in the wrong order.

Anyway I've swapped them around now.. There's bound to be lots of fiddly shit like this for a few days..

Sorry!
Title: Re: Forum Upgrade
Post by: Moroboshisan on April 08, 2011
Quote from: Shockwave on April 08, 2011
[...] Sorry!

DON'T even think that word once! You're doing it well!... DAMN WELL!

you deserved some K++ ... but I was able to give you just 1...

it's a pity I must wait 0.25h to give you more K! :-/
Title: Re: Forum Upgrade
Post by: Shockwave on April 08, 2011
Thanks for the Karma :)
Title: Re: Forum Upgrade
Post by: Moroboshisan on April 08, 2011
take a look @ this screenshot... are you aware of this? or it is supposed to work that way?

Reloading the page I noticed that in the news "pane" are displayed more lines that disappears in a blink of an eye...
Title: Re: Forum Upgrade
Post by: Shockwave on April 08, 2011
Yeah, I'd spotted that..

I was thinking of turning off the news fader to be honest as if I stick the shout box on this page too, it will have to squash the forum a bit and make it a bit messy.
Title: Re: Forum Upgrade
Post by: Kirl on April 08, 2011
Awesome, I like the new style!

Two minor suggestions:

- The individual posts seem a bit less separated at first sight, maybe a border or a slightly larger space solves it? I noticed just now while typing there's a nice subtle black border on the post page around the post bg. I think it might work nice in the thread as well to aid visual separation.

- The border color of the input fields in the post page are gray on hovering and blue by default and active. Maybe swap the default and hover color, so they are gray by default and blue when active and hovering. So the field with the focus is highlighted.

Should be two easy css tweaks if you agree with them.

Otherwise good stuff, really like it! Looking forward to the new trophy style sigs!

:rockon:

[EDIT] I just noticed a couple of smiley's got replaced with slicker versions. I like the old flat smiley's better actually. Especially the old grin smiley was my favorite.
Title: Re: Forum Upgrade
Post by: Moroboshisan on April 09, 2011
Quote from: Kirl on April 08, 2011
- The border color of the input fields in the post page are gray on hovering and blue by default and active. Maybe swap the default and hover color, so they are gray by default and blue when active and hovering. So the field with the focus is highlighted.

I wouldn't said that with better words! If it isn't too much hassle it would look much more intuitive
Title: Re: Forum Upgrade
Post by: Shockwave on April 09, 2011
Flat Smileys are back :)
Title: Re: Forum Upgrade
Post by: Jim on April 09, 2011
Great job Nick!  Seems like it went pretty smoothly.

The new theme is a bit more scrappy on my Android than the old one, but then I'm mostly only using that to delete spammers as soon as they come on, so it doesn't matter much.  The competition sig thing will clear some of that up.  Question for another day:  Are there any smf mobile themes?

Jim
Title: Re: Forum Upgrade
Post by: Shockwave on April 09, 2011
I tried it on my phone too and I found that this theme on my android tends to chop off pictures, it's not great on mobile really.
There are some lightweight skins out there for mobiles, if there's one you like for RC5 it's easy to upload it if you like.
Title: Re: Forum Upgrade
Post by: combatking0 on April 09, 2011
Quote from: Shockwave on April 08, 2011
That's a nasty one!

I think I've traced it though, do you want to check to see if it's fixed?

Confirmed, it's completely gone.
Title: Re: Forum Upgrade
Post by: Moroboshisan on April 09, 2011
looking at the footer in the home page there is "Your I.P Address: xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx"

there is a dot missing... ;)
Title: Re: Forum Upgrade
Post by: Shockwave on April 09, 2011
Quote
- The individual posts seem a bit less separated at first sight, maybe a border or a slightly larger space solves it? I noticed just now while typing there's a nice subtle black border on the post page around the post bg. I think it might work nice in the thread as well to aid visual separation.

I've added a very subtle black border around the post on Top, Right and Bottom and I think it does what you wanted?
Title: Re: Forum Upgrade
Post by: Shockwave on April 09, 2011
Quote from: Moroboshisan on April 09, 2011
looking at the footer in the home page there is "Your I.P Address: xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx"

there is a dot missing... ;)

That's strange because the code is;


$ip=$_SERVER['REMOTE_ADDR'];
echo '<h3 class="bottomstats">PAGE VIEWS: '.$downs.' &nbsp;&nbsp;Your I.P Address: '.$ip.'</h3>';


So it should be right!
Title: Re: Forum Upgrade
Post by: Kirl on April 09, 2011
Quote from: Shockwave on April 09, 2011
I've added a very subtle black border around the post on Top, Right and Bottom and I think it does what you wanted?

No, I meant the entire light gray post area around each post (with the rounded corners), it encompasses the sidepic and sigs et all. If you click reply to go to the post/type message page, you can see the border that I mean. There's a nice subtle black border around the entire lighter gray area which includes the smiley's and input fields.

The text within the post area doesn't really need extra outlines imo, it loses a bit of the clean feel and the various links that appear above and beneath the text also help to visually separate it.
Title: Re: Forum Upgrade
Post by: Shockwave on April 09, 2011
I see what you mean.

That's going to be fiddly to change - it's something I will get around to doing later on I think.
Title: Re: Forum Upgrade
Post by: Moroboshisan on April 09, 2011
look at the code you posted
Quote from: Shockwave on April 09, 2011
   echo '<h3 class="bottomstats">PAGE VIEWS: '.$downs.' &nbsp;&nbsp;Your I.P Address: '.$ip.'</h3>';

shouldn't it is something like:
   echo '<h3 class="bottomstats">PAGE VIEWS: '.$downs.' &nbsp;&nbsp;Your I.P. Address: '.$ip.'</h3>';

or

   echo '<h3 class="bottomstats">PAGE VIEWS: '.$downs.' &nbsp;&nbsp;Your IP Address: '.$ip.'</h3>';

;)
Title: Re: Forum Upgrade
Post by: Moroboshisan on April 09, 2011
some more strange behaviour ?_?

it's just me or others sees the same too?
Title: Re: Forum Upgrade
Post by: Shockwave on April 09, 2011
I know about that one thanks mate.

It's on the to-do list.
Title: Re: Forum Upgrade
Post by: rain_storm on April 09, 2011
The news bar fades in / out. Nice touch.
Title: Re: Forum Upgrade
Post by: Rbz on April 09, 2011
Wow, great work mate!
Title: Re: Forum Upgrade
Post by: ferris on April 10, 2011
Love the new look. Very modern :)
Title: Re: Forum Upgrade
Post by: Yaloopy on April 10, 2011
Looking slick. Thanks for all the work, Nick.

Really looking forward to seeing what you come up with for the new frontend!
Title: Re: Forum Upgrade
Post by: Shockwave on April 10, 2011
Glad you like it :)

I'm going to start coding the front page template today :)
Title: Re: Forum Upgrade
Post by: Clyde on April 14, 2011
a bit too orangy for us crows.
Title: Re: Forum Upgrade
Post by: Shockwave on April 14, 2011
Quite possibly since Crows are not colourblind.
I don't think that there are many crows using the forum though so we won't worry about them.
Title: Re: Forum Upgrade
Post by: Shockwave on April 14, 2011
The very first post in some of the boards now has the option to submit to Googlebuzz, Digg, Stumbleupon etc.. Feel free to clck them if you like :) Hopefully it will bring more people!