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Title: Windows 8 in pictures + public download link
Post by: va!n on September 13, 2011: With big interest i followed the online stream about windows 8 from the build conference. I have tried to take screenshots from interesting / important parts about windows 8. So you can download the screenshots as ZIP from here:

Pictures - 16,2 MB Zip (http://"http://www.secretly.de/windows8/Build.ZIP")

Btw you can download and test the first version of windows 8 in 32 and 64 bit without activation code ;)

[ Added: ]
[ The very interesting keynote video can be watched here - http://www.buildwindows.com/ ]

(http://www.secretly.de/windows8/start.jpg)

(http://www.secretly.de/windows8/start2.jpg)

(http://www.secretly.de/windows8/download.jpg)
Title: Re: Windows 8 in pictures + public download link
Post by: Hotshot on September 13, 2011: Tell me what Window 8 got that Window 7 Havant got?
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Post by: slinks on September 13, 2011: Less compatibility
Title: Re: Windows 8 in pictures + public download link
Post by: va!n on September 13, 2011: Quote from: Hotshot on September 13, 2011
Tell me what Window 8 got that Window 7 Havant?

+ Extrem fast booting
+ Less system usage - see picture 118
+ Better system security
+ Metro style with hubs for fast access
+ Integrated facebook and other comunication stuff
+ Programms for Win8 can be coded in nearly any language - see picture 093
+ Runs on x86/x64 and even ARM
+ There are a lof of nice news, esp for developers!

Just watch the video...

Quote from: slinks on September 13, 2011
Less compatibility

Wrong! Windows 7 programms still works under Windows 8 !
Title: Re: Windows 8 in pictures + public download link
Post by: Hotshot on September 13, 2011: Thanks Vain and slinks :)

Postive
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+ Extrem fast booting
+ Less system usage - see picture 118
+ Better system security
+ and other comunication stuff
+ Programms for Win8 can be coded in nearly any language - see picture 093
+ Runs on x86/x64 and even ARM
+ There are a lof of nice news, esp for developers!

Negative
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- Less compatibility
- Integrated facebook (Oh No!!!)

Interesting :)
Title: Re: Windows 8 in pictures + public download link
Post by: va!n on September 13, 2011: @Hotshot and Slinks:
Who says less compatibilty?

As me wrote before:
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Wrong! Windows 7 programms still works under Windows 8 !
Title: Re: Windows 8 in pictures + public download link
Post by: Jim on September 13, 2011: Quote
Integrated facebook (Oh No!!!)
My feeling exactly! But think about it, they still need to provide developers with a version of W8 that can be used without all that clutter (something like W7 Pro today) and many big companies won't buy an OS for their employees if it encourages them on to facebook all the bleeding time!

I can see the way it's going though - the last version of Windows Messenger, Live! it's called these days, would not install without asking for all my social network logins (of which I have none) and it still says I have to come back later and fill them all in!

Jim
Title: Re: Windows 8 in pictures + public download link
Post by: Hotshot on September 13, 2011: Quote
@Hotshot and Slinks:
Who says less compatibilty?

Slinks say it but I dont know much about Window 8 and I am Happy Sticking Window 7 Thank you very much....

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I can see the way it's going though - the last version of Windows Messenger, Live! it's called these days, would not install without asking for all my social network logins (of which I have none) and it still says I have to come back later and fill them all in!

LOL....I guess it does your head in when that Happen :boxer: Facebook isn't good because it linked with somethings that You don't know as it can be scary sometime!!!
Title: Re: Windows 8 in pictures + public download link
Post by: va!n on September 13, 2011: Here is the official microsoft press news about windows 8 and build.

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Title: Re: Windows 8 in pictures + public download link
Post by: hellfire on September 14, 2011: So you guys are getting really excited about a new version of Microsoft Windows?
I don't see any feature that makes be go "wow, i totally want that".

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Programms for Win8 can be coded in nearly any language
I'm wondering what the other languages were good for...
Title: Re: Windows 8 in pictures + public download link
Post by: combatking0 on September 14, 2011: I like the sound fast booting thing and the lower usage of system resources. The C64 had it, and it worked fine. ;)
(I have an optimised Vista installation which goes from the Boot screen to Logon screen in under 10 seconds - if it can beat that, I'll be impressed)

I'm not keen on the prospect of the Metro whatsit - give me a desktop style interface any day.
Title: Re: Windows 8 in pictures + public download link
Post by: slinks on September 14, 2011: Quote from: va!n on September 13, 2011
+ Metro style with hubs for fast access

So it looks gay, but it totally isn't?

Quote from: va!n on September 13, 2011
+ Integrated facebook and other comunication stuff

Am I the only one that's getting nervous with how much facebook is intergrating with everything else? The fact it can access my windows messenger contacts/emails (I'm pretty sure without my permission) is a little alarming
Title: Re: Windows 8 in pictures + public download link
Post by: combatking0 on September 14, 2011: Hopefully I'll be able to disable Metro and Bacefook.
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Post by: padman on September 14, 2011: I want MS-DOS back.
Title: Re: Windows 8 in pictures + public download link
Post by: Pot Noodle on September 14, 2011: Not another new interface!
Title: Re: Windows 8 in pictures + public download link
Post by: Shockwave on September 14, 2011: Nothing about that excites me... It's so depressing it makes me want to go out and by a Mac and seriously, fuck Facebook.

Also the extreme fast booting, my copy of Windows 7 boots at the same speed it takes my monitor to switch on so that doesn't interest me either.. More money for old rope for Microsoft.
Title: Re: Windows 8 in pictures + public download link
Post by: slinks on September 14, 2011: Quote from: padman on September 14, 2011
I want MS-DOS back.

Karma up :goodpost:
Title: Re: Windows 8 in pictures + public download link
Post by: padman on September 15, 2011: Hehe, thanks! But I'm just being honest. I miss "memmaker" (dang! still 5kb of himem missing ;D), "arj a -i2 -v1440..." and games which came on 12+ floppy disks. Good old times... <3
Title: Re: Windows 8 in pictures + public download link
Post by: maracuja on September 15, 2011: Haha or qemm and arj a foo.arj -v1440 -jm -jt1 -m4 -y foodur :-)
Title: Re: Windows 8 in pictures + public download link
Post by: benny! on September 15, 2011: WTF .... Windows 8 Won't Support Plug-Ins; the End of Flash? (http://news.slashdot.org/story/11/09/15/1257249/Windows-8-Wont-Support-Plug-Ins-the-End-of-Flash?utm_source=feedburnerFaceBook&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+Slashdot%2Fslashdot+%28Slashdot%29&utm_content=FaceBook) ... I boykott Win8!!!
Title: Re: Windows 8 in pictures + public download link
Post by: combatking0 on September 15, 2011: Plugins should work in Desktop mode, but I'm looking into ways of converting my Flash coding into HTML5, of which there appear to be many :)
Title: Re: Windows 8 in pictures + public download link
Post by: Pixel_Outlaw on September 18, 2011: Quote from: hellfire on September 14, 2011
So you guys are getting really excited about a new version of Microsoft Windows?
I don't see any feature that makes be go "wow, i totally want that".

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Programms for Win8 can be coded in nearly any language
I'm wondering what the other languages were good for...

All I know is that it breaks Code::Blocks on my friends test computer today.
We configured an PDcurses program on Windows 7 and Windows 8 using a fresh install on both. Apparently they added some new shell so CodeBlocks C and C++ programs use the wrong one by default.

I'm glad to see that one doesn't have to use their Fisher Price huge arthritic button interface all the time. I'd rather 30 menu options instantly visable in an ugly grey menu instead of 14 large glossy icons.
Then again I hate the Unity desktop for Linux for the very same reason.

I'm going to catch a lot of flack for this thought, but modern computers really hide the interesting bits from the users.
Soon computers won't have icons, they will have holes and colorful wooden blocks that one pounds through shaped holes to activate programs.
People really think a computer is a magic collection of icons anymore and the computer works on unicorn farts, pixie magic, and rainbows.

Maybe the magic is lost on me since I don't own a tablet nor a smartphone.

I sure am grumpy tonight. ::)

Windows 9 Home Ultimate Professional Socialmedia Edition SE (With Microsoft Office Basic)

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Title: Re: Windows 8 in pictures + public download link
Post by: Pot Noodle on September 18, 2011: Who would you most like to have a one to one with ?

Bill Gates, So I can kick him strait between the bollocks. :boxer:
Title: Re: Windows 8 in pictures + public download link
Post by: combatking0 on September 18, 2011: Quote from: Pixel_Outlaw on September 18, 2011
I'm going to catch a lot of flack for this thought, but modern computers really hide the interesting bits from the users.

I agree - the problem I've had with XP's default Start Menu and Control Panel when compared to Windows 98 (for example) is that the My Computer is off the desktop and hidden away in the Start Menu, and most of the Control Panel icons are hidden unless you enable them.

From a technical point of view, it was easier to find what you wanted in 98. Vista and 7 have made this even worse.

Windows 8's default Metro interface has taken this even further.

Windows 9 will replace everything with one giant button, with the direction we're seeing.

It sounds like the Mac Book Wheel all over again.
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Title: Re: Windows 8 in pictures + public download link
Post by: slinks on September 19, 2011: Bill Gates: Wow, people really seem to like this apple shit, let's make our computer more like a mac!

Everyone: But, we bought PCs because we hate macs! Don't do it!

Bill Gates: Who said that?
Title: Re: Windows 8 in pictures + public download link
Post by: Shockwave on October 08, 2011: Quote from: Pixel_Outlaw on September 18, 2011
I'm going to catch a lot of flack for this thought, but modern computers really hide the interesting bits from the users.
Soon computers won't have icons, they will have holes and colorful wooden blocks that one pounds through shaped holes to activate programs.

That's the plan. To abolish coding and turn it into design, augmented by user interfaces, I know I've said this before but I'll say it again. It's good news for people who do actually understand programming because we'll be earning shitloads in the future when there's nobody left to maintain all the legacy code.
Title: Re: Windows 8 in pictures + public download link
Post by: combatking0 on October 08, 2011: :goodpost:

I'll bear that in mind when we get replaced by one man with a degree in touch screen button pressing, and my employer realises their mistake :D
Title: Re: Windows 8 in pictures + public download link
Post by: relsoft on October 13, 2011: Am I the only one on XP these days?
Title: Re: Windows 8 in pictures + public download link
Post by: hellfire on October 13, 2011: Quote from: relsoft on October 13, 2011
Am I the only one on XP these days?
I'm still with you, mate :)
Title: Re: Windows 8 in pictures + public download link
Post by: combatking0 on October 13, 2011: I use XP (mostly) at home, and I still have one of the few remaining XP computers at work, because the document scanner won't work with Windows 7.