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PROGRAMMING => General coding questions => Topic started by: lachose1 on October 18, 2011

Title: Your opinions on HTML5 for a prod?
Post by: lachose1 on October 18, 2011
Hey guys,
we've pretty much all heard about HTML5 and CSS3. Being a web developer, I've been interested on the topic and actually started using it in some projects. Yesterday I found this website made by Adobe and was thinking that it could be used to create interesting browser demos : http://beta.theexpressiveweb.com/
Do you have opinions on this? Do you think interesting things could be done with it or it's too soon?
Title: Re: Your opinions on HTML5 for a prod?
Post by: Kirl on October 18, 2011
I've seen a few really impressive demo's being done with it. My own trials just ran way too slow though and most wasn't yet supported on 2/3 of the browsers. I'm as happy as I am frustrated with it I guess.

Defenatly not too soon to get a good understanding of it though, I'd say it's just about the right time to start looking into it. I got a bunch of books on the subject, but too many interesting Flash projects keep demanding my full attention.

I think it's really interesting, I'm just waiting for the perfect HTML5 project to come to mind. :)
Title: Re: Your opinions on HTML5 for a prod?
Post by: Shockwave on October 18, 2011
The site seems really cool.  I think that if you make a good demo in any platform though people will appreciate it.  If you're really interested in making browser demos with html5, go for it. It's only a matter of time before more and more people start adopting it so now's a good time to get in at the start.
Title: Re: Your opinions on HTML5 for a prod?
Post by: Dr.Death on October 18, 2011
I second that mate i would love to see a demo in HTML5  ;D
Title: Re: Your opinions on HTML5 for a prod?
Post by: LittleWhite on October 18, 2011
With HTML 5 and CSS3, we can do so beautiful website (We, I mean, you, not me :p )
And more cool stuff seems to be coming (CSS Shaders?).

Unfortunatey, HTML5 will be normalised around 2017 ... so, lot of silly conversations with these actors, where each company try to get it's benefits out.

Otherwise, I hate Firefox and JS demo. In fact (at least under Linux), because Firefox has random FPS slow down ... (Which are really anyone for all demos / games)
Title: Re: Your opinions on HTML5 for a prod?
Post by: benny! on October 20, 2011
Yeah, HTML5 is definately about to be explored. The demoscene is just right for that. Take a new technology at try to push it to its limits. I totally agree with LittleWhite ... your final product might does not work on all browsers but hey - most of nowadays modern demos don't run on my laptop either - I have to watch the youtube versions of them.

Doing web development since several years now - I really can say that the browser is getting a cooler and cooler platform to code for. Especially the boost of javascript engines (e.g. V8) is tremendous. I would be happy to see more good HTML5 demos soon.
Title: Re: Your opinions on HTML5 for a prod?
Post by: combatking0 on October 20, 2011
I've got some catching up to do - and apparently HTML5 works on iOS platforms where Flash won't, so I'd best get learning again.
Title: Re: Your opinions on HTML5 for a prod?
Post by: Kirl on October 20, 2011
Yep, one of the books I got is called: Creating iPhone apps with HTML, CSS and Javascript. It's a short little guide on how to port js games to iPhone and Samsung devices using phoneGap. I haven't really looked into it yet though...
Title: Re: Your opinions on HTML5 for a prod?
Post by: lachose1 on October 20, 2011
I've got some catching up to do - and apparently HTML5 works on iOS platforms where Flash won't, so I'd best get learning again.

Actually, if you already know older versions of HTML, learing to code HTML5 isn't hard at all. Getting a demo to run with it might be another thing though :P
Title: Re: Your opinions on HTML5 for a prod?
Post by: benny! on October 21, 2011
I've got some catching up to do - and apparently HTML5 works on iOS platforms where Flash won't, so I'd best get learning again.

Only the flash plugin is not supported (as all browser plugins) by Apple. But remember that you can package your flash application to a native iOS app with the current version of flash in combination with AIR.

Yep, one of the books I got is called: Creating iPhone apps with HTML, CSS and Javascript. It's a short little guide on how to port js games to iPhone and Samsung devices using phoneGap. I haven't really looked into it yet though...

I own this book, too. It gives a good overview and introduction. There are some useful hints if you really want to port a HTML5 game to a mobile device. But as you already said, since it is really short it just gives a brief overview on the topic.
Title: Re: Your opinions on HTML5 for a prod?
Post by: JL235 on October 21, 2011
HTML5 and CSS is still a little hit and miss. For example JS oriented animations can be amazingly slow in Chrome, but if you use CSS transformations instead, they can become smooth as silk. My point is that to build something amazing, you do have to learn how to get the most out of it; what to use where, what works, and what doesn't.

However I have never seen as much development on a standard, as there is for HTML5/CSS/JavaScript right now. If you build a HTML5 site today, it WILL run better, smoother, and to a higher quality in a years time. It's hard to find other platforms, even very mature ones, where you can see half as much development. It's also spreading into so many different areas, being ubiquitous on almost all platforms. It's even a first class citizen for building apps in Windows 8!

It's certainly far easier to build very sophisticated, and pretty applications then using Java/C#/C++/whatever, and that's what I really like about it.