Processing... Useful?

[Moroboshisan]

Hi and respect to everybody, dunno where to post this... hope not to be OT... ops... 

http://www.typotopo.com/wordscapes/

open up and take alook at the "x" effect...

Cheers anyone... hope to post something useful in the future.

[Pixel_Outlaw]

I've seen some short work done with it actually. I think it might be ok for getting ideas out quickly. As I understand, it is more of a graphic and art based language perhaps best for making quick mock-ups.

Here is a link to a thread I created for David Bollenger who does extensive work in Processing.

http://dbfinteractive.com/forum/index.php?topic=3500.0

[Moroboshisan]

I've seen some short work done with it actually. I think it might be ok for getting ideas out quickly. As I understand, it is more of a graphic and art based language perhaps best for making quick mock-ups.

Yes, I know that... I just meant to poit out a nice oldscjool effect...

As you may guess I popping out from the C64-ancien-oldschool
Actually i'm trying to figure-out if i'm still able to learn some coding basics... not so much success yet, my last line of code was in '91... some TurboAssembler 5 on C64... later i did just a few copper-test with masterseka on Amiga500...

[Shockwave]

Welcome to the forum.

I really do hope that you stick around, by advice to you would be to dive straight in and get your feet wet.

Have you chosen what programming language you are going to use?
Let us know and we can go from there.

[Moroboshisan]

Have you chosen what programming language you are going to use?
Let us know and we can go from there.

Actually i'm a little bit confused  ... at first sight I thought it would be nice to learn ASM... but my actual skill are close to "00"  so I decided to put aside the old Holy Grail of the OldSch00l-DemoCoder programming black art.

In the beginning i tried to learn some "C" basics... but i get stuck with pointers  ... unfortunately RealLife(TM) business  leave relly little time to read try and understand. Maybe I just haven't found the right way to tackle the problem and    identify a valid study methodology that suits my    rusty'n'empty mind....

What i actually need the most is the ability to take a look at someone else code and being able to READ IT having a CLUE of what I'm actually READING!!!... The greatest obstacle that I found in the source-code-avalanche available out there was that there are too many examples in a mess of programming languages... mostly of them hardly adaptable to modern compilers without huge modifications or various dependency-hell-related libs  ...

I feel the beauty of software rendering, but I don't want just to use someone else pre-build library... for the same reason I don't want to mess with DirectX or OpenGL (well, maybe not at the moment...).

"FreeBASIC with TinyPTC-EXT" seems quite interesting from a n00b point of view to start from scratch, i'm planning to start reading Freebasic manual to grasp the syntax basics, then experimenting a little...


NOTE: what I "feel" that's missing is some kind of in-depth-explanation of single effects, a sort of "missing link" between simple-print-text-to-screen to PixelShaders-DirectGPU-Programming-for-Real-Time-Rendering like this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LWx2HjvFzHw ... there are Denthor/Asphixya tutors written in Pascal (someone partially translated it to C in the early 90s) as well some good OpenGL ASM examples http://perso.orange.fr/franck.charlet/Ogl_Asm.zip written by the mighty hitchhikr... and dozens more of course...

Am I totally wrong? Did I miss some neat resources?

  last but not least: I apologize for my lame english, hope you got tha message.

[Shockwave]

Your English is fine.

You seem to have almost come to the decision to use Freebasic and Ptc_Ext.
I think that you are realistic enough to understand that you are not going to be able to understand everything straight off, so let's look at what you can do with tinyptc..

Well, you can plot dots in an area of memory which is used to update the screen, so to put things at their most fundamental level you need to be able to open a screen and then plot a dot.

Does that sound fair?

First question for you before you start is do you have freebasic and ptc_ext installed?

[Moroboshisan]

First question for you before you start is do you have freebasic and ptc_ext installed?

Yes, actually I'm playing around a little with FB v0.20 and Ptc_Ext ... not all sourcecode I found in ther forum directly compile straightforward, in most cases i need to use -fblite or -deprecated switch... in other cases there is some missing gfx/charset/muzax... as long as there isn't any in-line asm i'm trying to figure out how everything works....

Your English is fine.

You are definately ... a LIAR!!! 

You seem to have almost come to the decision to use Freebasic and Ptc_Ext.

FreeBASIC is just like a gym to begin with... something simple enough to re-start reading some code after almost 16 or 17 years now! Long ago I simply take a look at C64 memory pattern with some ML-Monitor to identify if it was audio, gfx, code, charset or simple garbage... nowadays I would not be able to recognize a LDA-STA from a FOR-NEXT cycle!!! 

I think that you are realistic enough to understand that you are not going to be able to understand everything straight off

Actually I don't know if I will be able to understand even the simplicistic code example!... A very hard work is waiting me right next door...

anyway... 10x for your moral support, you really deserve some fresh beer and lot of Karma

[Shockwave]

THe beer and Karma would always be welcome, but anyway, after you decide what you want to make as a first thing to help you get back into programming, you could post what you want to make somewhere around here if you like.

Then we can make it less painful for you.