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PS3.0 testers needed
« on: May 12, 2007 »
Hi,

I wrote some code today but to get it under 1k I had to really push the limits of windows drivers. The code requires PS3.0 so if *anyone* has PS3.0 could you test this code and see if it works for you??? I am *amazed* it works for me.

Thanks.

Image included for non PS3.0 card holders which must be almost everyone here I guess.



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Re: PS3.0 testers needed
« Reply #1 on: May 12, 2007 »
I wish I would be able to see this moving. Looks really nice Taj! I don't know anyone (apart from you obviously) who can run PS3 stuff. Hope you find some testers.
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Re: PS3.0 testers needed
« Reply #2 on: May 12, 2007 »
works fine here taj ati x1550 looks the shit too i cant belive you got that down to 1k incredible!
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Re: PS3.0 testers needed
« Reply #3 on: May 12, 2007 »
Thanks Nino, thats cool. Thanks for the test. K++

Anyone with Nvidia?

Chris
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Re: PS3.0 testers needed
« Reply #4 on: May 12, 2007 »
Quote from: Shockwave on May 12, 2007
I wish I would be able to see this moving. Looks really nice Taj! I don't know anyone (apart from you obviously) who can run PS3 stuff. Hope you find some testers.

I wish you could see it too shockie!

Chris
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Re: PS3.0 testers needed
« Reply #5 on: May 12, 2007 »
I get an orange screen

nvidia geforce 6600 gfx card
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Re: PS3.0 testers needed
« Reply #6 on: May 12, 2007 »

The same as CoDeMaN , Except white screen.

nVidia 5200FX GFX Card.
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Re: PS3.0 testers needed
« Reply #7 on: May 12, 2007 »
Quote from: Emil_halim on May 12, 2007

The same as CoDeMaN , Except white screen.

nVidia 5200FX GFX Card.

Emil, the 5200 is a PS2.0 card, not PS3.0, so it cant run the intro. Thanks for testing though.

Chris
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Re: PS3.0 testers needed
« Reply #8 on: May 12, 2007 »
Quote from: CoDeMaN on May 12, 2007
I get an orange screen

nvidia geforce 6600 gfx card


Codeman,
Thats worrying. In theory it should work as 6600 has inifinite instructions and dynamic branching. I tested with 8800 and it works fine so certainly the later Nvidia cards work. Hmmm bloody shaders...they are all so incompatible and unpredictable currently.

OK well I wont rush to release any code fom this one then :-) Thanks very much for the test. K++

Chris
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Re: PS3.0 testers needed
« Reply #9 on: May 12, 2007 »
You're a long way ahead of most people's hardware Taj :)
It's probably impossible for you to make a safe version of this, I'm guessing there's no software fallback you can use?
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Re: PS3.0 testers needed
« Reply #10 on: May 12, 2007 »
Shock,

some drivers do support a software fallback but it could take maybe 1-2 minutes to draw one frame in some cases. I cant do anything Im afraid, even if it wasnt in 1k.

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Re: PS3.0 testers needed
« Reply #11 on: May 12, 2007 »
X1600, black screen :(  It should work as this card is supposed to do PS3.  App is still responding though, so it thinks it's rendering something!

Jim
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Re: PS3.0 testers needed
« Reply #12 on: May 13, 2007 »
whats the main diffrence between my x1550 and your 1600 jim? cause i would have thought it should work on yours with yours being a better model than mine.
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Re: PS3.0 testers needed
« Reply #13 on: May 13, 2007 »
Not a lot.  Maybe you were right about driver troubles?  Everything runs perfectly normally with this demo and your stuff, but right now I'm getting a lot of blank screens! :(   I think I had trouble with AUX buffers before too.

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Re: PS3.0 testers needed
« Reply #14 on: May 13, 2007 »
Quote from: Jim on May 13, 2007
Not a lot.  Maybe you were right about driver troubles?  Everything runs perfectly normally with this demo and your stuff, but right now I'm getting a lot of blank screens! :(   I think I had trouble with AUX buffers before too.

Jim


Jim,

"everything runs fine with this demo". Does that mean it did work briefly?
Perhaps vista drivers are not yet stable in the less often used functionality or perhaps I'm not resetting things well enough. I had to add one line of code to get Nvidia 8800 to work under Vista.

Anyway, its a waste of my life now, I can see that things are simply not stable enough around ps3.0 to make it worth trying.

Chris
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Re: PS3.0 testers needed
« Reply #15 on: May 13, 2007 »
it really is a bit worrying as i was going to get the new vista but *if* there are still some driver problems from amd i might hold off for a while.

one thing i want to ask jim is that when you update the drivers could you let us know if any of the stuff that was giving you black screens runs.

cheers.
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Re: PS3.0 testers needed
« Reply #16 on: May 13, 2007 »
Shockie,

This might be of general interest Shockie...feel free to move the post if you feel its better elsewhere.
Nobody can run my 1k "hell" intro and that happens a lot with compo demos too (they run on the typically advanced compo machine and nowhere else).

So I did this.
1. Download kkapture 0.06b here http://www.farb-rausch.de/~fg/kkapture/
2. Captured the video at 800x600 (>1Gb)
3. Downloaded virtualdub from here http://skynet.liacs.nl/medialab/bin/showpage?doc=76
4. Followed instructions to resize but used "old format avi" instead and ignored warning

Result 160x120 avi , 25Meg in size. Its not great in terms of size (seems like it could be smaller).

Anyway you can get this video from http://scener.neostrada.pl/1ksmall.avi if you really want to see it.

Chris
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Re: PS3.0 testers needed
« Reply #17 on: May 13, 2007 »
Got a 404 with the link unfortunately.

I think it's time I updated my gfx card anyway, I was thinking about doing it soon. I have radeon X300 SE 128mb card at the moment.

What card would you reccomend? The processor in this machine is an intel Pentium 4 3.0ghz so it's quite up to date.

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Re: PS3.0 testers needed
« Reply #18 on: May 13, 2007 »
Quote from: Shockwave on May 13, 2007
Got a 404 with the link unfortunately.

Hmm trying to fix this, could be a disk limit at my ftp server host. Looking into it...ok no I cant even have 25Meg on my server...I love Poland, this is the major operator and I pay 30quid a month for this service which is the equivalent (adjusting for cost of living etc) of you in the UK paying 90 pounds a month.

Sorry forget the video.

Chris
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Re: PS3.0 testers needed
« Reply #19 on: May 13, 2007 »
Hi Taj,

"runs fine" in this case means it hasn't crashed, remains responsive, but nothing is displayed, not even briefly.  Screen mode is set, but the screen stays black.  I've filed a bug report with ATI.

Don't waste your time on trying to fix it for me, there's either something wrong with my PC specifically, ATI Vista drivers specifically, Vista specifcally, or the X1600 specifically, or the code.  I don't fancy debugging that lot frankly.

Nino, it's probably not Vista, it's probably something local to my setup.  There's no way ATI would release drivers with a regression like this.

Jim
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