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Offline Shockwave

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PS attempts to clean up Pouet.
« on: November 17, 2007 »
PS at pouet has banned a load of people for trolling.. Also there have been recent topics about whether thumb up /thumb down is a good idea, and even challenging some users on the Pouet bbs;

http://www.pouet.net/topic.php?which=4781&page=1&x=16&y=1

This was about some spurious thumb downs.

So what is going on, has PS lost the plot or is he simply implimenting something that has been needed for a long time?

I am not sure that he is going about this the right way.
Pouet is the place everyone loves to hate and cleaning house like this may be too much change too quick.. Perhaps it will just go back to the anarchy it was.

I think that the place needed some moderation to stop pictures of animal mutilation etc being posted, but perhaps PS is taking the hard line a little too far.. .  .
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Re: PS attempts to clean up Pouet.
« Reply #1 on: November 17, 2007 »
Looks like he has his hands full ;D

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Re: PS attempts to clean up Pouet.
« Reply #2 on: November 19, 2007 »
pouet is the kinda place where people can hide behind their anonimity and knit-pick to their hearts content you cant take that away from the place it would ruin this fine steriotype I have in my head. I hope it was just a moment of maddness

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Re: PS attempts to clean up Pouet.
« Reply #3 on: November 21, 2007 »
Pouet has calmed down a lot since PS started. At least for now, he seems to be succeeding. I had a long chat with one of the oldest members of the scene recently, a guy still very much active. He told me that without question the scene is much smaller now than ten years ago with very few new members entering. The scene, in a very real sense, is dieing.

As a consequence, the need to work at getting new members (some people see the scene as something they want to nurture and grow) is seen as much greater now than before. Add to this the fact that once the best place to see awesome graphics was the scene, but now, its games, means that the scene is no longer a "wow, leet" place that attracts the best. So its getting harder and harder to maintain the scene. The average age of sceners is higher than ever I've been told.

Pouet, IS in a very real sense, a newcomers first experience of the scene. Large pictures of someone holding their arsehole open in the middle of a discussion of "how do I get started?" really don't help. For some newcomers (me included) Pouet is the scene, and glib comments like pouet!=scene && scene!=pouet are really just rhetoric, nothing more. Of course in the age of internet, anyone can easily get into Pouet, into the scene and claim to be a member. Even if they never publish anything but simply sit around judging others or trolling. So Pouet may be a first point of contact, but its not a good one.

So, PS isnt alone. Cleaning up Pouet is part of a larger effort it seems. Notice gloom is intent on improving scene.org. Meanwhile, alien and others are working hard on bitfellas. Then there was the outreach to California recently. Whatever, opinions are on this, I noticed on the outreach blog that they were leaving the web address for scene.org everywhere but not pouet. Pouet seems to be a mild embarrassment in this context. You can't go to Pixar and show them Pouet, well ok you can but its risky - Americans are in general more conservative than Europeans.

So I think in this larger context, I doubt very much that PS had a momentary whim or a second of clarity. I suspect its very much more discussed than we realise and then something tipped the scales. Its an enormous change in policy and could not have been an easy decision.

All this said, dont get me wrong, I'm not personally motivated to clean-up or sell the scene to anyone. For me I have a love-hate relationship with this thing called the scene. As such I have ambivalent feelings about what happens to it. So I'm not judging here or saying anything is good or bad I'm simply commenting...


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Re: PS attempts to clean up Pouet.
« Reply #4 on: November 21, 2007 »
Interesting thoughts there Taj.  I wouldn't much fancy trying to shovel the shit back in to the cow at this stage though.  They're gonna need balls of steel and the patience of saints to get it all back on track.

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