Visual Studio '08 Available

[Jim]

Both the full version and the Express editions of Visual Studio 2008 came out over the last few days.
Get Express here http://www.microsoft.com/express/
Express is 895MB download (but that won't include the latest Windows SDK - you can continue to use the one you had in 2005), the full MSDN release of VS2008 Professional was a 3.5GB download!

I'll be trying it out over the coming weeks and will post any good findings here.

Jim

[Shockwave]

The size of the development kit is ridiculously huge. Why does it have to be so bloated??

[va!n]

thanks for the info and link

[Jim]

Why does it have to be so bloated??

I suspect it doesn't have to be THAT bloated, but it does come with 4 programming languages, the Windows Platform SDK, .NET SDK, the debugger and IDE, SQL server, Win32, Win64, PocketPC development, web development, ... There's a great deal in there.

Jim

[Maxx]

does anyone know what else is needed when you download and install the 2008Express dvd iso as ive downloaded the platform sdk also the first one not the r2 one and installed direct x sdk november edition but something doesnt seem correct somewhere.

fatal error RC1015: cannot open include file 'afxres.h'.

i tried replace it with windows.h but then same error but with windows.

an installation tutorial would be handy

[Jim]

Replacing one header with another is never really going to work.
Try checking in Tools->Options->Projects & Solutions->VC++ Directories  then click the Include Files tag at top-right
Check that the paths to the stuff you've installed are in there correctly. 

Jim

[Maxx]

oki ive got these in there:

$(VCInstallDir)include
$(VCInstallDir)atlmfc\include
$(WindowsSdkDir)\include
$(FrameworkSDKDir)include

for directx do i just browse and add path ?

[benny!]

Why does it have to be so bloated??

I suspect it doesn't have to be THAT bloated, but it does
come with 4 programming languages, the Windows Platform
SDK, .NET SDK, the debugger and IDE, SQL server, Win32,
Win64, PocketPC development, web development, ... There's
a great deal in there.
...

Jim, does the Express 2008 version also allow PocketPC
development ? That would be great news.

Didnt find the time to test the 2008 version at all ? How
is your personal impression of it so far ?

[Jim]

->Maxx - yes, just browse the the include and the lib folders in the separate sections.  Make sure they end up *above* the platform SDK so that you override the older stuff included in there (if any).

->Benny - I'm not 100% sure whether Express supports PocketPC but I don't think so.

I've not used 2008 much yet.  I ported some C++ projects up from 2005 and couldn't see much difference.  Apparently there's a lot of good C# stuff, especially with Intellisense support (for which I use Resharper in 2005), and of course .NET 3.0 support.

Jim