Surprise Productions!

[Shockwave]

As you may know, some members of the DBF demo team are in other groups as well.
Thygrion started his own group but is also still a member of DBF, Wham is in DBF and Gravity.

Some of you will remember that a short while ago I posted saying that I was not sure which direction to take my code in. On the one hand I wanted to explore new stuff, another pull for me was that I am really into this forum and want to help make it get better and better and another part of me is stuck in the 1980's.

I have decided to do all three things.

In the future I will be developing stuff and releasing it with my friends in DBF, and as always I will make as much source code available to the users of this message board as I can.

I have coded in the past few weeks, two intros for another group in an effort to purge some of the old schoolness out of me and then I've had my ego gently massaged by some of my scene heros like Alpha One who for a wonder actually like my stuff!!??!! Because it seems like there are actually other people out there apart from all my friends in this forum who appreciate the oldschool vibe I am greatly encouraged and I am feeling really productive right now.

I'd venture as fas as saying that there are hardly any coders out there who make old school stuff any more and I've decided to pursue this actively as well.

Nuke and Druid of S!P asked me to join Surprise Productions, in fact Druid hinted at it last week and
I've made it clear that I am really happy to join as long as it doesn't require me to neglect this place and the DBF team, they are cool with this.

So basically, if you are releasing a product and you feel like greeting me, you can greet me as Shockwave^S!P^DBF.

As far as my efforts are concerned, they will not be changing and I am still just as committed to this community and the group that I founded with Parabellum as I have ever been and I'm looking forward to more years of coding fun and hopefully meeting some of you at parties as you get more into the demo scene you may feel like me that it's good to broaden your horizons and meet more friends.

Things are definately changing out there, Bitfellas.org for example is a scene community that is run largely by gloperators from Pouet who are pissed off with it. This is good as you can hone your skills here and there are more and more places to release your products so that they get much wider coverage.

If any of you still don't have an account at intro inferno, I'd reccomend it, it's great for feedback without the attitude of Pouet. Indeed I haven't even bothered to upload my last two intros at Pouet, someone else can do it if they can be bothered

On another note, Druid of S!P is coding the showcase of this site and you are all going to love it! It's already looking far better than Pouet! You can expect to see that in the coming months.

[Clyde]

Congratulations buddy

[Rbz]

Congratulations, and good luck in your new demo group   

[Shockwave]

Thank you both Please note that I have not left DBF though!

[Ghost^BHT]

Glad to hear your news about surprise. 

[taj]

Although slightly off topic, I can backup shockwaves recommendation of intro inferno. I too have been doing productions that I am not uploading to pouet, Intro inferno is largely free of lamerz who talk the talk but never walk the walk.

Oh and congrats on SiP shockwave! (To bring us back on topic)

[Shockwave]

Thanks Sek, Thanks Wham

[.:] Druid [:.]

Although slightly off topic, I can backup shockwaves recommendation of intro inferno. I too have been doing productions that I am not uploading to pouet, Intro inferno is largely free of lamerz who talk the talk but never walk the walk.

I can only recommend the same...oups, busted, ok, it's me lol

Back on the subject now...It's a pleasure for us to have you on board, your motivation and your skills impresse me!Ã,  keep it up!

[Shockwave]

  It's good to be a part of S!P 
Looking forward to releasing something soon

[benny!]

First,

@Shockwave: Congratuliations joining S!P. Like their productions since the amiga era a lot :!:

Speaking of S!P and just visited their page - it reminds me on http://www.alambik.de.

Alambik is a browser plugin compareable to flash with a buildt in 3D engine and some more nice
features especially scene members would like. However, it doesnt has the success it should have
(in my eyes). I was a registered user of the german alambik.de forum. Now I wonder, if any of
the old founders are here in this forum.

Are there anyone else here who played around with alambik - or does anyone else know anything
about what's happened to the alambik movement ?

[taj]

Just a guess but probably flash 10 happened to alambik. Built in opengl support kind of would kill anything proprietary?
Ive never worked out if opengl support is for surfaces or if it supports true 3d.

[Shockwave]

I remember looking at alambik some time ago, Wham put me onto it I think.
I was really impressed with what it seemed to be able to do and it got put on my things to learn list, but unfortunately like so many other things I've meant to get into I just forgot about it.

[NuKe^S!P]

hi,

iam the co-founder of www.alambik.de
the reason we do not develop it further, is that we never got feedback
from the alambik team. we havent received any answers at our emails we
wrote, and... and... its quite sad, because we have done before some cool
intros and stuff with alambik. sad the support was so bad from them.

[benny!]

hi,

iam the co-founder of www.alambik.de
the reason we do not develop it further, is that we never got feedback
from the alambik team. we havent received any answers at our emails we
wrote, and... and... its quite sad, because we have done before some cool
intros and stuff with alambik. sad the support was so bad from them.

@Nuke:

Yup. I remember the discussions going on on your site as well as on the official alambik forum.
It's is really a shame that the support/marketing was so bad. Alambik had a great technique
back then.

Do you know if it is still developed. The official site (alambik.com) looks like it looked years ago.

[NuKe^S!P]

hi,

iam the co-founder of www.alambik.de
the reason we do not develop it further, is that we never got feedback
from the alambik team. we havent received any answers at our emails we
wrote, and... and... its quite sad, because we have done before some cool
intros and stuff with alambik. sad the support was so bad from them.

@Nuke:

Yup. I remember the discussions going on on your site as well as on the official alambik forum.
It's is really a shame that the support/marketing was so bad. Alambik had a great technique
back then.

Do you know if it is still developed. The official site (alambik.com) looks like it looked years ago.

@benny,

i think i remember you from the alamik forum posting there some years ago.
yes it all was a shame, we even started to translate the whole scripting site in to german
wrote tutorials, scipting stuff, intros.... as the technique was really nice.
it seems they havent developed anything since years there, itÃ,´s bad!
this is an example of NOT how to do it.
the only support once we got, was a package with some tshirts in 2002 or so.
i still wear em on some days, hehh!
all our work for nothing

[benny!]

@benny,

i think i remember you from the alamik forum posting there some years ago.
yes it all was a shame, we even started to translate the whole scripting site in to german
wrote tutorials, scipting stuff, intros.... as the technique was really nice.
it seems they havent developed anything since years there, itÃ,´s bad!
this is an example of NOT how to do it.
the only support once we got, was a package with some tshirts in 2002 or so.
i still wear em on some days, hehh!
all our work for nothing

Definately. This is really a shame and I still cannot see why alambik.com didnt support you
more. I remember reading in the official forum from the marketing director that they wanted
to change their marketing strategy and so on ... and that it takes time.

But honestly. There is no cheaper way of marketing a new product than a good community
with a lot of enthusiasm and energy. It seems so absurd ... sorry for all your wasted effort with
alambik.de

[Shockwave]

Didn't the S!P site use Alambik?

[benny!]

Didn't the S!P site use Alambik?

Yup. If I remember correctly they used a little plugin for mod-playback. Cannot check it-
because I removed the plugin.

If you wanna see some nice examples. Just install the viewer and check out their demo
site ( http://www.the-demo.com ).

Most of you may esp. be interested in that :  http://scene.the-demo.com/