Where to get some good ASM Tutorials

[Rbz]

I found a webpage with some good tutorials about asm:

http://www.dd.chalmers.se/~f99laan/3d/download.html

Take a look at "General graphics tutorials..." section.

The tutorial by Adam's is very good, one of the best.

http://www.dd.chalmers.se/~f99laan/3d/www-download/asmtuts.zip


Enjoy


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[Shockwave]

Thanks for the links!
What assembler do you use for your tiny stuff?
I wouldn't mind having a go at making something.

[Clyde]

@Shockie: You might be able to do some of them with the inline ASM in FreeBasic dude.

Cheers for the links Rbraz buddy

[Rbz]

For 1K tentacle I have used T0A - The 0ok Assembler by Null OK, its nice and simple assembler capable to compress the final executable.

But now I'm using Flat Assembler much better and friendly, FASM have a simple IDE that help alot when you need to find errors in your code.

And they are free!

[Shockwave]

Thanks mate, I'll use the flat assembler I think.

[Phoenix]

Thanks for the links Rbraz, I'm giving FASM a shot right now, following the tutorial. ASM is pretty tricky but I'm starting to get the hang of it

[Rbz]

No problem dude

I found another tutorial that will help with fasm.

http://sulaiman.netadvant.com/sulaiman.zip


The autor have translated some of the Iczelion's Assembly Tutorial into fasm.

Enjoy!


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[Steve Elliott]

rbraz, what do you think of MASM32?

[Shockwave]

Isn't Masm the assembler that imitates C style instructions?
I don't know anything about it, except that if you were looking to write some 1kb style stuff, that T0A is probably the one to go for, I think that's what Rbraz used to write Tentacle.

Then again, it is possible to write some very small stuff using C.

http://www.intro-inferno.com/production.php?id=1688

Shows a 256byte C program, although it is said that the same program is possible in 128b with asm. But it does go to show that you don't necessarily need to use asm to get a small file.

[Steve Elliott]

Yes MASM has some C style instructions that are the equivalent of jmp and cmp etc (so no loss in speed).

I'm looking to have a go at assembly for speed, compactness and because it's something I haven't done before!  I'm not too bothered about fitting everything into 1K - I was just impressed by the 1K demo.

[Edit]
After a quick test FASM seems easier to use.

[Shockwave]

Any questions you get, please feel free to post them, there are at least half a dozen people here who will be able to help with most stuff.

[Steve Elliott]

Cool.  I'm coding in Cobra mainly - but I'm definitely looking to try and get something running in asm.

[Rbz]

rbraz, what do you think of MASM32?

Hello Steve, welcome aboard!

I use MASM32 too, it's really good choice, you can emulate "High Level Syntax" (.if .else .while .repeat etc..) that make your code more readable.

You can try FASM, I just love it, very simple IDE to use that help a lot, you can make Windows or DOS (16 / 32 / 64 bits) programs.
All my others 1kb are coded in FASM.

[Steve Elliott]

Thanks rbraz - have you written any tutorials here?  I think the basics of assembly are ok - but the graphics and sound need a few tutorials to help a noob.

Have you seen the San Angeles Observation 4K demo?  That's a really inspiring demo which uses Opengl and asm like your 1K demo.

[Rbz]

have you written any tutorials here?

No, sorry, I'm bad writing tutorials, but I can help if you got stuck with something

Have you seen the San Angeles Observation 4K demo?

Yeah, really good

Here's one that use directx -> http://www.pouet.net/prod.php?which=29823

[Steve Elliott]

That demo doesn't work rbraz - it gives an error as you click on the program.

[Shockwave]

Shame, hitch's demo works on here.
Maybe you need to update your directx?

Anyway, there are lots of examples of small intros if you can't get this to work so I wouldn't worry.

[Shockwave]

By the way Steve, I was thinking about sound in assembler, you could use ufmod, it's really small and it has the capability to work with Masm and fasm.

ufmod

If you are going to try and make sound in a 1kb or a 4kb, you'll have to write some kind of synth.
Saida posted a 1kb softsynth in masm here;

Saida's Synth.

Also, this may be of interest to you as well.
Speech in 1kb

Again by Saida.

Sorry I didn't think of these last night, I was brain dead from too much celebrity tv.

[Steve Elliott]

Thanks Shockwave - just need some spare time to get my head around it all now.

[Agent Smith]