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Offline nzo

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3rd TinyPTC Remake
« on: November 25, 2009 »
Well, this is a bit different.
A lot more work in this one - not just the code, but the rucks of copper, new routines for me - bobs, multiple copper layers and hand editing the graphics. I had to make a new XM for the music as it was 2 patched samples originally.
I made a utility for this program which converts amiga dc.w data to copper colour arrays, modulo arrays and other things. If anyone wants it, let me know.
This demo has a special memory for me - it was one of the first amiga demos I saw where my jaw hit the floor and made me *need* to get an amiga.
I was tickled to find out as well that this demo is part of the UAE test suite - do doubt down to the bizarre way the copper updates are coded (I have the full amiga source code for this demo if anyone wants it).

Anyway, this was a real labour of love and I probably spent a lot longer on this than I should have - maybe 20 hours+ just trying to get all of it exactly right.
If you haven't seen this on a real amiga, you probably never will - at least in it's original form - as it corrupts quite badly in WinUAE.

Anyway, hope you like it and let's see what the next challenge brings!

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Re: 3rd TinyPTC Remake
« Reply #1 on: November 25, 2009 »
I have to say that it really makes my day - when I see new remakes
online by you.

To be honest, I never heard about The Starlight Project before - however
the usage of bobs and copperbars are truely oldschoolish. Also the sine wobbling
FX on the logo. Really a good one. Scrolly is nice to read, too.

The music sounds - as you said - really like being composed out of 20secs
sound samples. I remember in the oldschool-time that this was considered
as lame.

Nevertheless, I like this intro. Thanks for that!
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Re: 3rd TinyPTC Remake
« Reply #2 on: November 25, 2009 »
Great remake again nzo sorry about last time it was my machine going MAD all fine in this & i do remember this one from way way back.

Amazing that you are sharing your code with everyone on here too all i can say is MORE PLEASE..  :bananaphallus:
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Re: 3rd TinyPTC Remake
« Reply #3 on: November 25, 2009 »
Oh my!

You made this one so quickly and what a fine job.
I hadn't seen this before you pointed it out but I can see why you wanted to remake it.
I will be uploading both this one and the last one to Retro-Remakes this evening when I come home from work.
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Re: 3rd TinyPTC Remake
« Reply #4 on: November 25, 2009 »
This is indeed awesome work! :goodpost: But now I gotta go and find my Hulkster bandana... hehe
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Re: 3rd TinyPTC Remake
« Reply #5 on: November 25, 2009 »
Welldone indeed NZO :)
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Re: 3rd TinyPTC Remake
« Reply #6 on: November 25, 2009 »
I have to say that it really makes my day - when I see new remakes
online by you.

Thanks a lot! I must say it's very enjoyable making them as well.

The music sounds - as you said - really like being composed out of 20secs
sound samples. I remember in the oldschool-time that this was considered
as lame.

There was a year or two when virtually all intros and demos had just looped samples or partially stitched samples in them until Sound Tracker appeared. Because of ST only being released with an initial music disk (the ubiquitous ST-01) a lot of early prods had similar sounding tunes and similar style (80s synth euro pop).
For these reasons it's possible to date intros before 1990 quite accurately just by looking and listening to them.
It's somewhat ironic that sampled loops kind of made a comeback later (albeit very tiny phased sawtooth loops) in cracktros from paradox, fairlight etc  :kewl:

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Re: 3rd TinyPTC Remake
« Reply #7 on: November 26, 2009 »
I've been on your cool dhtml workbench site, hows about converting those over to freebasic dude.
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Re: 3rd TinyPTC Remake
« Reply #8 on: November 26, 2009 »
Sure thing Clyde.
I wanted to look at a few new challenges first - ones I dismissed or abandoned before because it wasn't possible in DHTML.

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Re: 3rd TinyPTC Remake
« Reply #9 on: November 26, 2009 »
Thanks to Clyde for re-mentioning your DHTML page. I tried out that
link before - but with firefox - and I couldnt get it to work. DHTML is
rather Internet Explorer specific, isnt it ?

Nevertheless, I revisit your site using IE - and it really rocks. Having
done several browser based projects myself lately - I really love your
site. Great work - even it is browser specific!

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Re: 3rd TinyPTC Remake
« Reply #10 on: November 26, 2009 »
Well, I did start off with uni-browser support, but a lot of the fx I was working on were only possible in IE. Even now, some of those capabilities have been depracated from IE, e.g. XBITMAPS, some directX utilisation (e.g. image rotations, vector functions).
Also, a lot of timings went out the window with different versions of IE etc.
Good thing is, a lot of the code can be ported to FB - I will probably port my vector bob stuff over. A lot of routines (chequer boards etc.) use DHTML specific tricks which although can be ported, won't be optimal in FB.


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Re: 3rd TinyPTC Remake
« Reply #11 on: November 26, 2009 »
Yup. Maybe you redesign your page once HTML5 with WebGL is officially
supported by all major browsers. I tried to do a little framebuffer simulation
in javascript
some years ago using tables. Performance was bad and I stop
the development when the canvas-tag came out.

Anyway, very good work of yours!
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Re: 3rd TinyPTC Remake
« Reply #12 on: November 27, 2009 »
Hmmm.... I've been reading the word Amiga a lot since I've returned to the forum.

I really need to finish getting my old 1200 up and running.  I had a hard drive faliure and I'm in the process of getting a Compact Flash drive working as a replacement.

Looking forward to seeing the demo, unfortunately Ubuntu made some "critical" updates which included breaking wine so I can't watch it till I reboot into windows :(

[Edit:] Good news, I fixed wine and your demo is great :)  Top work!
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Re: 3rd TinyPTC Remake
« Reply #13 on: November 27, 2009 »
Very cool indeed. I really like the scroller in this. Awesome job.

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Re: 3rd TinyPTC Remake
« Reply #14 on: December 21, 2009 »
so much things going on :)

very good